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luk
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MezafitsII
Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 33 Location: hawaii,oahu
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:45 am Post subject: PalmZ |
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I have been planning on re opening the site and working on the project again. I am glade to see a little intrest. That other software for palm looks promissing however does it have , color or will it keep a log?
Well any way. I would give it a few weeks. and by few i mean maybe a month and a half. I am going to school and I have lots of home work. In addition to working full time so... You know how it goes.
Oh yea I shut down the old site because the provider didnt have ASP.net and I work with that now. The new site should be substantialy better.
Peace ... _________________ I am the sum of my actions |
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tay-fu300zxtt

Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Posts: 82 Location: dfw USA
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MezafitsII
Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 33 Location: hawaii,oahu
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:11 pm Post subject: ? |
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I'm not exactly sure how to respond to that _________________ I am the sum of my actions |
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badbiki
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 19
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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http://bikirom.com/BikiRom.html
if you download BikiSoft-USB.msi you can open, edit, save binary files...
add/remove/edit variables
add/remove/edit tables
configuration files are all found within, and auto K conversion works on a .BVQ vq table import...
lots of crap in there.. alot of room for customisation
i'll keep it up there for a while yet, moving to a newever version shortly but i'll link it differently... newever version wont be as customisable due to all the new features added.. would have to code around 100 little interfaces to customise everything... |
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MezafitsII
Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 33 Location: hawaii,oahu
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:35 am Post subject: |
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well sorry for the delay guys. if any one is looking forward to seeing changes in palmz your gonna have to wait a few more months. I had an accident and ended up breaking my arm.
needless to say its put me in a diffrent mode and I am kinda putting a hold on any side projects till i have the ability to use my arm again.
additionaly I may abandon palmz and work toward something on a pc as its a bit easier to get what i want out of something with a lil more processing power.
I have been working on the web site and I have a pretty good shell as soon as my lazyness subsides I will find a provider and host it.
peace.. _________________ I am the sum of my actions |
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deviousKA
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 107
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Hey MezafitsII, sorry to hear about your arm, that sucks!
I have tried palmZ, but on my palms with the standard serial comms (cradle pinout type) I couldnt ever get the soft to output any command bytes. I think I remember you mentioning you were working with a slightly different palmOS device, I have tested it with ibm c500 (m500), and a zire 71 with the same results. The greyscale on the c500 doesnt work, obviously, but the app seems to run with button presses and all. The zire opens the software as intended, but nothing out the serial port.
It was a while ago when I was messing with that but I figure you might want some feedback, better late than never ha.
I made up that NSPalm posted above for older palm devices, but it has some bugs. Ybasic has decent serial handling routines, but I have had some buffer lag issues as well as the software not recognizing zero bytes in the stream, at times. I posted the simple ybasic code so anyone can mess with it, it can be fixed but I have moved on to different languages and devices. |
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NewKleer
Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 159 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:39 am Post subject: |
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progress with ecutalk ive been working on is here: http://www.ecutalk.com/
part way thru doing the real-time graphing, bit harder than i anticipated
will be able to do a pocket pc version without too much trouble once ive done the normal pc version |
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badbiki
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 19
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:16 am Post subject: |
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Ummm.. there seems to be like 10 different consult software and 20 different editors...
why dont you guys ban together and make an open-soruces windows/pda based software project? Using .NET 2.0 or somerhing... put it up on source forge and go crazy?
standardise config files, consult modules... etc... ? |
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NewKleer
Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 159 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:33 am Post subject: |
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success of any open source project needs a successful base to work upon - you wont make much progress starting from scratch or using a mediocre first attempt to work upon.
therefore u need to wait until a successful project emerges, then see if the author is willing to go open source with it. as yet all the successful ones that are closed source are as such as they want to make money from it (which is one of the drivers in making any software)
making software which doesnt already have a big userbase open source, is an invitation for someone with a bit of ability and better marketing to then make money from it, so its not something which should be done lightly.
personally i may need some of my work to contribute to my thesis at uni over next 18 months, so i dont imagine id open source it before thats complete
at the moment there still isnt one cheap/free consult software that does it all - gauges, logging, real-time graphs, active test, rom dumping, which is the main driver for mine (but also that the only pocket pc software available is charging 600$, which i think is a bit over the top) |
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badbiki
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 19
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Yes that IS crazy... the 10% fuel trim macro thing? Make more Power! hehehe funny..
I'm looking at doing a winCe.NET version of the bikisoft for my boards... anyhow... |
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MezafitsII
Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 33 Location: hawaii,oahu
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Actually I had been working on all of those things right up to the point I quit. I was tring to get the thing to dump the rom to a file when i quit. I had finished some work on the the line graph and had one with timing and rpm running.
as for as the serial port issues I will take a look at my routine. but the palm development suite is pretty simple for serial port operations. I'll have to look at my versioning and see if its backwards compatiable. The zire is the only one I think is as new as my clie. _________________ I am the sum of my actions |
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MezafitsII
Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 33 Location: hawaii,oahu
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:22 am Post subject: |
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deviousKA
That sounds pretty cool , good luck on the buffer lag issues I know where you going with that. I am pretty sure what I did was only display every so often , like say every third fetch or ever other. Cuts down on how many times i have to run the display before I can get back to fetching data. However I put every byte in the log and if you play back from the log you get all of it , it just runs a lil faster. I put a timer mark in the log every second, and then when i play it back i play one seconds worth ever second.
I dont know why the zire dosent work, the only thing i can speculat would be that perhaps its the cradle. "do other serial programs run and out put data on the zire?" "i am sure they do, however I would have to see your connection map." all of the serial programming is generic it should work for any thing. I use a clie but I dont use any clie specific libraries. I just know that out of my clie the voltage levels are not rs232. thats what the gps cable is for. The voltages coming out of my clie are TTL levels not rs232 so the cable changes the TTL to RS232 and then it works with most serial devices. However its funny cause I am pretty sure the conzult unit changes it back to TTL. I would realy have to look at the output specs of the device again but what it boils down to is that the standard serial cable would not connect to the conzult. You need a cable like the ones which connect to a gps device "for my clie". "basicly you have to be sure that your getting the right signals out" .
it should work stright from the pda to a laptop.
Have you tried that? I had to work to get it right. When i first tried i could get it to talk to my laptop all day long. My pda and laptop were like two old friends. My pda and my conzult were from diffrent contires. once i figured out that the conzult expected voltages levels like what comes out of my laptop i got a translator to go from my pda to the conzult. then it worked!
if you can get your hands on a comport tool , hook the pda up stright to the laptop and monitor what comes out.
thats where i started?
palm zire 71 appears to use the same os that my clie uses so it should run the same.
good luck _________________ I am the sum of my actions |
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MezafitsII
Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 33 Location: hawaii,oahu
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| NewKleer wrote: | success of any open source project needs a successful base to work upon - you wont make much progress starting from scratch or using a mediocre first attempt to work upon.
therefore u need to wait until a successful project emerges, then see if the author is willing to go open source with it. as yet all the successful ones that are closed source are as such as they want to make money from it (which is one of the drivers in making any software)
making software which doesnt already have a big userbase open source, is an invitation for someone with a bit of ability and better marketing to then make money from it, so its not something which should be done lightly.
personally i may need some of my work to contribute to my thesis at uni over next 18 months, so i dont imagine id open source it before thats complete
at the moment there still isnt one cheap/free consult software that does it all - gauges, logging, real-time graphs, active test, rom dumping, which is the main driver for mine (but also that the only pocket pc software available is charging 600$, which i think is a bit over the top) |
NewKleer
that seems pretty cool, I look forward to seeing a palm based version" wince or palm dosent matter. I will tell you this "if its that graphics intesive and does logging I will be impressed." or its gonna require hi end pda's remember what you working with on these scaled down handhelds
low memeory and cpu, every clock cycle counts. _________________ I am the sum of my actions |
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NewKleer
Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 159 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:53 am Post subject: |
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yeh, performance will be a big issue. will cross that bridge when it comes to it. also been working on a lcd consult display, and thats looking good
http://www.ecutalk.com/consultlcd/consultlcd.avi (4.19mb)
will probably end up going for a 40x2 lcd instead (and should update a bit faster than what it is there).
hopefully i get something done before uni goes back though! |
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